imho....it all needs to go.
its influencing everything in this world every and anywhere.
from the saudies, to the people in irag, iran and anywhere else our sons will need to be sent.. our current president claims he is influenced along with the former prime minister of england by religious beliefs.. there is the huge evangelical influence that got bush and the mess he made who put them in to begin with.. we have the jw's causing absolute havic in anyone's lives connected with this stupidity.. it goes on and on and on.
You won't find a building or buildings that are His "church".
You won't find a "labeled organization" that are His "church".
Rather, He calls and recognizes those who, as individuals throughout the earth, make up, collectively, His church.
True Christianity is organized by God Himself, that is the only "organized religion" that will survive forever.
BA- All other "organized religions" be damned.
there seems to be a lot of hostility on the board toward atheists still and a lot of comments floating around like atheists are to preachy.
well i want to take a quick minute and deal with some of these issues.
to begin with, to make any statement regarding atheists in general would be false for several reasons.
Brother Apostate has pasted some of his arguments and I didn't find them that challenging - the whole 'in the name of atheism' stuff, for example. Maybe there's better stuff he's written, but I haven't seen it yet.
Way to go, seratonin, you latch on to one statement and use it to deny everything else D'Souza stated.
"In the name of" could be changed to "As an atheist", and would perhaps be a less troublesome for you?
Your entire argument against the fact that, collectively, atheist regimes murdered more than 100 million people, is that the writer used the term "in the name of atheism", lol.
Oh, almost forgot your "other argument", your analogy that atheists don't believe in Santa, so they're somehow off the hook. Christians don't believe in Santa, either. Poor, poor, useless analogy, indeed.
BA
this guy says it better than anything i could type here.. .
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fifi40,
You are clearly in a state of denial.
I suggest you look at your posts, and in a mirror.
BA- Lolz.
this guy says it better than anything i could type here.. .
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HS
'Angry Apostate' is a term BA latched onto from another thread, although it seems he missed entirely the point of that thread........
Fi. Wondering if BA is capable of independant thought.
Perhaps if you took the time to read, rather than follow HS around the board like a little brown-noser, you'd realize I never called HS an "Angry Atheist", although HS certainly is angry, and HS needs therapy soon.
BA- Setting the record straight.
PS- You look foolish when you follow a poster around, behaving so obsequiously.
this guy says it better than anything i could type here.. .
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Now, we shall see who is blustering and lying shall we? Name one logical fallacy, and one lie that I have written on this thread.
One logical fallacy: Straw man-
" Your Young Earth Creationist stance on the earths early history"
Create a caricature, or straw man, of BA, then challenge BA on a stance BA hasn’t taken.
However, I could add thousands of ad hominem variants
"despite the fact that you learned all you know about this from the WTS",
red herrings, etc, etc, etc.
One Lie: BA is a YEC
HS, you are too easy.
For the record, I am not an "angry atheist" I am just much brighter than you are, which I suspect in your wee mind translates into the same thing.
One need only read your posts to see the anger seething through, boiling over the top. As for your "intelligence", lol, I’m sure all mentally handicapped individuals regard themselves as such, as do you. You are in great company then, and your self appraisals and self congratulations are laughable at best, and very sad at worst, indicative of someone who needs therapy very, very badly.
You didn't read it the first time I posted it, nor is it likely you read, or comprehend, anything outside of your limited "black and white" view of the world, but I'll post this yet again:
If I wanted to know about botany, I'd read books on it, and if I had questions, I'd ask botanists, not laymen, for answers. I've already indicated above that I am up to date and informed on evolution theory. You are delusional if you think you are an authority on the theory. You are a layman, not an expert, on the subject. I have read what you have read on talk origins and other pro-evolution websites, as well as pro-creation websites. Your ignorance of the subject matter you infer yourself to be an expert on has already been demonstrated on many threads regarding the subject.
There have already been thousands of pages of redundant threads on JWD regarding evolution, creation, and evolution vs. creation as a belief.
In all of those threads, not once has either stance been proven as fact, though some ignoramuses will claim otherwise, you being one of them no doubt. But bold claims do not proof make. JWD is now overpopulated with Rabid Evolutionists Taking Atheist Radical Dogma Seriously, there can be no doubt of that. While you can all continue to pat each other on the back, citing "phaks", "lawjik" and "reezun", your agenda is transparent. Go on "duhbayting on duh internetz ", it really "maykes yoo proovded smahrt" lol!
BA- For the record, didn't call HS "an "Angry Atheist". Here is what I stated: "HS, stop the hating."
PS- HS, get help in the form of a therapist soon.
this guy says it better than anything i could type here.. .
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HS,
For the sake of trying to help you, my fellow man, here’s a suggestion:
Why don’t you try reading a book, going for a stroll, or something useful for a change.
Whatever it takes, let go of the hate.
Only a truly deluded person would think they "can read an agenda" from a fluff thread asking an opinion on 3 questions. Those three questions were answered the way most Christians would, and what do you "read into it"? The meaningless drivel of a bigot.
The "black and white" us versus them" mentality that HS displays on every post discussing religion, belief in God, evolution, etc, reveals an ingrained JW view of the world. No room for "not sure", "don’t know", HS "knows everything." Only "his way" is the "right way", spewing out hatred of all who don’t believe as he does, as well as continually using logical fallacies and lies in his posts.
HS, in addition to the above summary, this web page sums you up quite well:
http://www.vandruff.com/art_converse.html
BA- Lending a helping hand to his fellow man. HS, stop the hating.
PS- Hillary, you obviously feel the need to continue escalating your campaign against all who don’t see things your way. I feel sorry for you, really. Get help in the form of a therapist soon. I highly recommend you take seriously these instructions on letting go of the hate:
http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog/2007/10/atheists-and-an.html.
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You know what makes this atheist angry? The music that loads with this thread!
Wow, it sure doesn't take much to make an atheist angry! It just goes to show that atheists are given to anger, even a little music like "bridge over troubled water" makes 'em angry, sheesh.
Atheists sure are a hotheaded bunch.
Let go of the anger, atheists.
Enroll in anger management therapy.
BA- Helping his fellow man.
PS- If only all the angry atheists would read the Bible, and follow it's counsel:
Proverbs 29:22: An angry man stirs up strife, And a hot-tempered man abounds in transgression.
Proverbs 15:18: A hot-tempered man stirs up strife, But the slow to anger calms a dispute.
Proverbs 26:21: Like charcoal to hot embers and wood to fire, So is a contentious man to kindle strife.
http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog/2007/10/atheists-and-an.html.
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serotonin_wraith,
Sounds like somebody needs anger management counseling.
Atheists, just let go of the anger.
There's nothing positive about it.
BA- Helping his fellow man.
http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog/2007/10/atheists-and-an.html.
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Even more help for angry atheists:
http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog/2007/10/atheists-and-an.html.
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More help for angry atheists:
